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You do realize that hamburgers were invented in Germany -- in Hamburg! -- and that by eating them and claiming them you're guilty of cultural appropriation? Stay in your lane!

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May 15Liked by Zi Cheng (Sam) Huang

This was fun. You should get him to write a post about teaching you to eat Western cuisine!

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What arrogant self absorbed drivel.

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And she's writing in English, appropriating our language, and using the Internet which was invented by DARPA. Appropriation everywhere!

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You're assuming gender ... shame on you! Women don't refer to their husbands and boyfriends as "partners." Look more closely at the avatar.

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You give it too much credit.

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Wow, rarely have I ever read such a smug, self-aggrandizing bunch of bs!

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Wow! I have read some entitled and ignorant virtue signaling on SS before but this takes the hamburger... err cake!

Maybe spend 3 seconds on research before writing?

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Maybe just chill and understand that there's no accounting for taste.

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I am beyond glad that when I lived in the Bay Area, I never had the misfortune of dating anybody who regarded my food preferences as a kind of settler-colonial project -- as if, for liking the foods I liked, I was some kind of backwards savage, and she had some kind of Karen's Burden to bestow culinary enlightenment upon me even to the point of lying to me about what I was putting in my mouth.

Good grief. A man who'd tolerate this insufferable "paternalism" might as well start picking out the special chair from which he'll watch his lady's trysts with her other boyfriends.

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May 16·edited May 16

I think she is a he, which might explain the "paternalism," but more likely explains the nature of the relationship. Maybe the author does all the cooking.

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"For instance, when one eats fries in Germany, it is impossible to escape the fact you are eating fried potatoes."

How does that differ from eating fries in Belgium or the US?

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This is disgustingly dismissive of a wide swath of ethnicities. The Sino-supremacism is evident, dripping from the narration like juice from the mentioned burger. I know some of the comments are more sarcastic jibes, but the author's ignorance of traditional foods from Europe is dangerously ethnocentric and highly problematic.

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You mean I need to know something before I start scribbling? But, but, but ... I'm educated!

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It's worth noting that, while Chinese people have an objectively better cuisine than any western countries (yes, even Italy), most Chinese people are also pretty unadventurous and struggle with ethnic cuisine from ethnicities other than their own - my in-laws in North China feel out of their depth with cuisine from Southwest or Southeast China, and would be totally unable to cope with the spicy food in West Africa, South Asia and Southeast Asia.

In my experience, white middle-class Anglos are actually among the more adventurous eaters. So I definitely don't buy this "ethnic" / "non-ethnic" divide.

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In China, McDonalds was widely regarded as 'health food'. Bread routinely is augmented with marinated cardboard, but Ronald permits none of that.

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White guy in the Bay Area? Okay, yours is from Germany, but by others surely you must mean in tech or the ones from Idaho, because San Francisco and Bay Area restaurants default to ethnic, with spicy cuisines well represented, from Korean to Mexican. Is there a table that has ketchup instead of hot sauces?

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The realisation that this German guy is probably some kind of software engineer, somewhere on the spectrum (which explains why he finds himself in the Bay Area) actually makes this article make more sense.

Autism spectrum disorders are very strongly associated with picky, unadventurous eating, and people on the spectrum tend to be averse to stronger flavours.

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The most embarrassing thing is that you don’t even know how far out of your depth you are. You’ve never been to Germany. You never ate any of their traditional dishes with rich and flavorful sauces, and you don’t know what Germans eat today. You just regurgitated some wannabe smart BS about it.

Your self-described “paternalistic” approach could backfire even if you knew something about “Western” cuisines, but this is much worse. You simply know nothing.

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I love Indian food, Chinese food, Thai food, etc. But I also love German food, and I find it to be tasty, flavorful, at times even spicy -- not at all how the author described it here. Perhaps the author has room for growth in appreciating different types of food as well.

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Humble, open-minded and inquisitive people have room for growth. This piece demonstrates anything but that and such things are not even about food.

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This was the dumbest Substack rant I've seen yet, plus, you're ignorant enough you can't spell "chile."

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Germany also has 329 Michelin starred restaurants. The 4th most. Don't know much about German cuisine, do you.

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FWIW- best Chinese I ever had was in Zermatt, Switzerland…

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Goodharting is about as natural a process as Goodnighting is for cattle.

Lying to your partner is when you say "Durian is like cheese".

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